they want to cut government. why don't they get involved with the structures within the agency and look at how many supervisors exist and how much top management excess compared to the actual workers doing the job? they don't involve the actual agencies to see how top heavy they are and how many empires have been built and reduce unnecessary positions that can produce positions for actual workers. guest: redundancy and waste we hear about. it takes a long time and to do that would be a big undertaking. host: we have been talking with ginger gibson from "politico." she came here straight from covering the overnight votearama in the senate. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] at some are will talk about propose a trip to the middle east. this followed by the importance of the presidential press conferences here i. then a repeat of the missile defense systems. >> the most decadent difference between what is happening today and a hundred yea